MAX BR1 Pro 5G WAN to Starlink directly without Starlink Router

[Chris_Boer]

Last week I have bought a MAX BR1 PRO 5G Global version with firmware 8.4.0 installed. And have connected my Dishy via a POE injector directly towards the Peplink Router via Ethernet. (not the Starlink Ethernet dongle but via the POE injector data port)

I have setup my connection to the Pepwave max to the WAN port and setup according to the youtube video with MTU 1500 and DNS checks and also added the management IP 192.168.100.2 to be able to use the Starlink App without the Starlink Router. Also added SIM card 5G and added external WIFI.
Created a separate VLAN 1 on 192.168.101.1-255 dhcp is from 192.168.101.2 till 100 and Pepwave is accessible via 192.168.101.1 this VLAN is bound to my peplink AP WIFI SSID

Everything works fine, so Starlink app on iphone, I can also go to dishy.starlink.com but the Starlink WAN connection simply is not performing.
I have an internet connection but the DNS resolving / Ping times are extremely high. Also the speeds are extremely low 0,5Mbit download sometimes.
So opening a google.com takes 1 minute and searching does not even show.

I have checked it via LAN and via WIFI both the same results, Starlink basically does not work.

This is the cable setup and I have checked the cables on an old RV router which works perfect, I here get +/- 60mbit up and down when connecting to this wifi.

So I basically I know that the cables are working perfectly and my POE injector works perfectly.

So what am I missing here… what do I still need to configure.

[Jonathan_Pitts]

Great information, posts and pictures!

Try removing the mgmt ip 192.168.100.2 , and the dns entries you added.
Save and reboot
then go to network → wan and check the starlink wan ip.
See if it displays the starlink logo on the x.
See if you can then still access the dishy page with the starlink app.
The pepwave should now have starlink integration enabled, It’s a little bit different then the manual way that we used to do it.

Once starlink integration is enabled, the starlink events should report to the peplink with a tag (starlink) added to the wan event. See what events are being reported to the pepwave and maybe we can diagosis it better.

Also what starlink model are you using and how far away is the dish from the POE injector?

[mystery]

some thoughts. 1) you are using a cheap china power converter. buy a quality one. 2) get yaosheng adapter/injector fed off the quality power source. 3) do not change MTU i did not for mine. 4) test dishy without the peplink and converter/injector hardware, and see if its performing fine with its own default equipment.

[Jonathan_Pitts]

Once he turns on starlink integration, we should be able to see events like ping loss, obstructions, booting, etc, so yup that’s where I was headed to rule our dish, power supply etc.

[Chris_Boer]

I can look into adapter/injector but as it is working like a charm on the old RV router and already ruled out any issue with the power source as it give 48,3V on all 4 POE outputs.

So cheap china power, yaosheng adapter is also from China

But a yaosheng is on its way anyway.

[Chris_Boer]

Starlink Gen2, about 5 meter / 29 feet from the POE power

I can still access Starlink Dishy page but is still the same performance

Still lots of packet loss

Once starlink integration is enabled, the starlink events should report to the peplink with a tag (starlink) added to the wan event.
Where can I find this ? is it this below ?

[Jonathan_Pitts]

Is your starlink wan set to dns health check of 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 if not you may want to change to that.

Do you see anything like this?

Also if you have it registed in incontrol2, pull up the reports: Wan Quality and Connection up/down history and paste here.

[Chris_Boer]

No messages on Starlink Outage No Pings

[Jonathan_Pitts]

Do you have it registered in incontrol2 for historical reports?

[Chris_Boer]

I have it enabled is that enough and registered

[Jonathan_Pitts]

Does it show as online in incontrol2?

[Chris_Boer]

Yes

[Jonathan_Pitts]

In incontrol, from group to device, and on the Device Level page, go to reports:
Wan Quality and Connection up/down history and paste here.
Curious what ic2 shows for your wan quality and events.
You could also check event log, and filter by wan events only and paste here.

[Chris_Boer]

4. I already did as described in the first post, it performed great with the cheap RV router

So it is something in the Peplink not in the POE or Dishy Gen2 dish / Starlink

[Jonathan_Pitts]

I know it’s a mystery to me why the peplink wouldn’t do the same as your other router.
That’s why I wanted to see the Incontrol2 events, the wan quality reports and the connection up/down history these are in incontrol2 and are historical over time, so the events look differently then the ones direct in the router. I don’t have direct access to the router, so I’m just giving my experience of where I would look for clues first.
Another thing to try is to lock the interface speed of the wan to 1g full duplex or put a small switch in between the starlink and the peplink. Perhaps it’s port flapping?

[Chris_Boer]

Hi Jonathan, is it possible that something is simply broken on the Peplink ?

WAN name,Type,Cell ID,Carrier,Band,Quality (dB),Strength (dBm),Latency,MNC,MCC,Time,Latitude,Longitude,Altitude
Starlink Internet WAN,ethernet,46,2024-01-01 19:40:40,
Starlink Internet WAN,ethernet,52,2024-01-01 19:40:50,
Starlink Internet WAN,ethernet,24,2024-01-01 19:41:00,
Starlink Internet WAN,ethernet,60,2024-01-01 19:41:10,
Starlink Internet WAN,ethernet,32,2024-01-01 19:41:20,
Starlink Internet WAN,ethernet,30,2024-01-01 19:41:30,
Starlink Internet WAN,ethernet,55,2024-01-01 19:41:40,
Starlink Internet WAN,ethernet,31,2024-01-01 19:41:50,
Starlink Internet WAN,ethernet,24,2024-01-01 19:42:00,
Starlink Internet WAN,ethernet,109,2024-01-01 19:42:10,
Starlink Internet WAN,ethernet,61,2024-01-01 19:42:20,
Starlink Internet WAN,ethernet,57,2024-01-01 19:42:30,
Starlink Internet WAN,ethernet,58,2024-01-01 19:42:40,
Starlink Internet WAN,ethernet,59,2024-01-01 19:42:50,
Starlink Internet WAN,ethernet,72,2024-01-01 19:43:00,
Starlink Internet WAN,ethernet,44,2024-01-01 19:43:10,
Starlink Internet WAN,ethernet,33,2024-01-01 19:43:20,
Starlink Internet WAN,ethernet,43,2024-01-01 19:43:30,
Starlink Internet WAN,ethernet,26,2024-01-01 19:43:40,
Starlink Internet WAN,ethernet,31,2024-01-01 19:43:50,
Starlink Internet WAN,ethernet,34,2024-01-01 19:44:00,
Starlink Internet WAN,ethernet,30,2024-01-01 19:44:10,
Starlink Internet WAN,ethernet,30,2024-01-01 19:44:20,
Starlink Internet WAN,ethernet,71,2024-01-01 19:44:30,
Starlink Internet WAN,ethernet,71,2024-01-01 19:44:40,
Starlink Internet WAN,ethernet,58,2024-01-01 19:44:50,
Starlink Internet WAN,ethernet,69,2024-01-01 19:45:00,
Starlink Internet WAN,ethernet,43,2024-01-01 19:45:10,
Starlink Internet WAN,ethernet,38,2024-01-01 19:45:20,
Starlink Internet WAN,ethernet,42,2024-01-01 19:45:30,
Starlink Internet WAN,ethernet,37,2024-01-01 19:45:40,

[Chris_Boer]

I really don’t understand this… when using my AP WIFI without Speedfusion I get on the Starlink App on my iphone 106Mbps and 5.2Mbp upload when I am using with AP WIFI with Speedfusion I get 25 Mbps and 0,9 Mbps ? I think it should be the other way around ?

[Jonathan_Pitts]

It may be time to open a ticket and have peplink dive into this further.

[Chris_Boer]

Thanks for your help Jonathan, I will move this on to Peplink support now, but I think you might be right about port flapping, as the POE injector I am using requires a swapped cable from the Passive POE data RJ45 side towards the Peplink router.

This cable modification is not required with the Yaosheng adapter I hope to have this adapter in house the 9th of January.

[Jonathan_Pitts]

I support many starlinks in the field, at least 10 on trains with the starlink Flat high performance and the br1 pro 5g and I’m not seeing the slow speeds you are with them.
But my devices are running on 120v and the supplied starlink power supply.
The flat high performance has a dedicated power supply allowing you to simply remove the starlink router. I suppose it’s similar to the Yaosheng adapter.
Are you able to test with the orgional cable and starlink router plugged into the peplink, or do you not have a unmodified cable?
Also have you tried a small switch in between the starlink and the peplink wan after the injector?